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 Post subject: Re: No Life, No Death, No World
PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:49 pm 
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One other interesting possibility is found in locworks references to "high energy double mirror twins of dead rampant A.I.", which he has posted on the blog at one point (infinite thanks to whoever finds it), and at least one other place.


I believe that phrase can be found at the beginning of the Inductee's Guide to the MINERVA Universe.


Excellent find, thank you. I somehow think that that's a clue to something. We know "high energy" is necessary to access the higher functions of the universe, such as Xen and teleportation. "Double mirror twins" seems it imply something copied or reflected, and "dead rampant A.I." could be any number of things.

This could actually fit with the "No life, no death, no world" message - suppose that whenever a certain being, perhaps Minerva, dies, a "twin" of itself takes over for it. So it has neither life nor death.


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 Post subject: Re: No Life, No Death, No World
PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:52 am 
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Now what would "No World" imply? Perhaps it's forewarning of Earth's possible destruction by the Combine? Or something more sinister? (If that's possible?)

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 Post subject: Re: No Life, No Death, No World
PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:15 am 
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Kenny wrote:
Now what would "No World" imply? Perhaps it's forewarning of Earth's possible destruction by the Combine? Or something more sinister? (If that's possible?)


As I mentioned earlier, it could be a reference to the fact that Minerva now has no real home. If she has become something post-human, or otherwise inhuman, she might have rethought her identity. Thus, she now has no real home - she's not fully human, in her mind, and thus, Earth is not her home world. But where, then, is? So she has no world in the sense that she has no definite point of origin.


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 Post subject: Re: No Life, No Death, No World
PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 2:24 am 
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Interestingly, Lux Aeterna is a reference to the light of God. I´m not religious, but I am very interested in those kind of significances. Maybe Adam is refering to somekind of religious significance in this name, not for his own religious beliefs (or lack of them, i really don't know), but to create a more complex simbolic construction. This is the way great stories are made.

Anyway, the quote refered in this topic remebers me of the publicity for Halo 3, that one with MC coming form the desert and Cortana making somekind of extra-reality conclusion of the nature of the Hero.
Kinda, what is no life, no death, no world? Its the nothingness, in my opinion. The end of all things, the end of existence. Only time remains, or maybe even that is obliterated.

To me it looks like somekind of apocalytpic precognition.
His the hero somekind of cyborg linked to his suit? Do machine have precognitions? Who knows...


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 Post subject: Re: No Life, No Death, No World
PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:06 am 
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Okay, but I'd be wary about automatically saying "religious references = good story." I mean, just look at the Matrix sequels, and for that matter the TVTropes article What Do You Mean It's Not Symbolic?

Also, the entirety of Metastasis predates Halo 3. There are some Halo references, and some Marathon references for that matter, but ...


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 Post subject: Re: No Life, No Death, No World
PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:34 am 
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Good catch. In fact, I do not want to say that religious significances automatically create good stories, but they are, in fact, a good way to try to say something. But are not the only ones, of course. I just finished seeing Jin Roh, a great movie that manages to give a great storie, full of layers, without an obvious religious simbology. It rather depends on the capabilities of the creator, I think.
One thing is that those conections tend to be not counscient. To creat a story, we do always use some simbology that is carved in our beings. Sometimes we do understand this and manipulate those same symbols. But that may not happen, and some stories have the natural cornucopia of symbols, but raw.
Usualy we try to do cool things, and work on them. Sometimes we use our general culture (or more specialized knowlege) to amplify that coolness, and other times we do not. But I think we should respect the good attempts (not saying you do not respect, only reinforcing the ideia ;))


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